Too much preg on the chatbox?

Okay, the main bulk of my problem is concerning the following, directly quoted from the Chatbox rules:

What RP content is not allowed? - We're an adult and open forum, so the Chatbox is also open to most any form of RP. However, there are some boundaries. Anything that results in scat, watersports, excessive blood, or graphic death is not allowed on the Chatbox. Digestion in vore (fatal vore) is alright as long as it is not overly graphic. (In other words, keep the digestion details limited.)

Now, I'm not begging and pleading to have any of these things allowed (though I am indeed fond of some of them); my problem is that there are probably other things that shouldn't be allowed, that aren't addressed in the rules as of right now.

My issue is with pregnancy and childbirth RPs, which seem to make up the bulk of the content on the chat lately. Now, of course, these are legitimate in a certain context. That context, however is basically following unbirth stuff; in any other context, it's just a yiff RP where those involved decide to follow up with having a baby, and RPing that process makes a good many people just as squeamish as playing out full digestion with scat after a vore scene.

Now, here's the thing: maybe not pregnancy, but childbirth is DEFINITELY something people tend to be squeamish about. I am, for sure, and there's plenty of videos out there where a father just passes right out while his wife is having their baby. It ain't a softcore thing, especially as a fetish; that's why I think it shouldn't be allowed, same as scat and watersports and gore. It'll drive people away who came here looking for vore stuff and can't stand pregnancy; honestly, if I'd just joined and saw what's always going on in the chat, I'd turn right around and go someplace else.

I also really dislike the sheer prevalence of pregnancy stuff lately. I'm normally a very, very accepting and tolerant person, even of those few fetishes that manage to give me freaking cold chills, but I cannot so much as log into the chat without the current situation either being an RP involving pregnancy and childbirth, or a yiff RP with the clear purpose being a pregnancy/childbirth, which is inevitably played by those involved later.

To be perfectly blunt... this is the HUNGRY Pokemon Forums, not the PREGNANT Pokemon Forums. It's always the same people involved, so I'm sure they can all get each other's IMs and have their fun in private if that's what they want; I'm just tired of seeing the pregnancy stuff played out publicly on the chat. It feels like forever since there's been any actual vore on the chat, and when there is it almost seems secondary to the pregnancy stuff anymore. I'm squeamish about pregnancy and childbirth, and I know a lot of other people are too. If people wanna keep RPing it that's fine by me, but they should take it to IMs or something private amongst themselves in the Yiffy RPs forum or to a different website altogether. No offense to those of you that like it, but there's just been entirely too much of it here.

Pregnancy is one of my smaller fetishes, so I do see the appeal, but I really need to agree with you here. It has gotten out of hand.

The main perpose of a vore forum is vore. People come here expecting that. Hell, people come here expecting to see some of the stuff we already have banned, cause it relates to vore. Most folk don't come here expecting pregnancy. And the quantity of the RPs going on, not to mention their quality of the RPs, deters people, old and new. I could sit and talk about the effects this has on our userbase for quite some time, but I wont.

When its related to unbirthing of some kind sure, but in the quantities it has reached now it is just out of hand, and is rather unnecessary. HPF has gotten a lot worse since I first joined up a couple years ago. I hate sounding Elitist, but we do need to have a handle on the things that go on here.

I agree as well. Granted I don't use the chat box, and I hadn't noticed this change myself, it's still a good point. If people want to RP other things, that's fine, but the bulk of what's being done on this site should still be vore oriented. If nothing else, if things get too out of hand, we should have more than one chat box for different sorts of content, just like how we have different forum sections for that same purpose.

sorry to put this bland, but this is ridiculous. pregnancy rarely happens as much as you say you do...it's probably just the bad luck you get for logging in at the exact time the RP is happening...

I've been spending quite some time in the chatbox recently, and I have seen very few birth RP's; the majority of these come from one member.

it seems that last night was when "the line was crossed" in this case. I wasn't online yesterday, but checking the archives, there seemed to be only 2 RP's suggesting pregnancy. this is not even about birth yet. how is that "too many"?

this is an adult forum, where all members are mature enough (at least mentally) to be able to tolerate such stuff... if we go by the idea that "this is a VORE community only" then we might as well go and ban pregnancy, as well as yiffing, and any sexual type of vore (which would include CV, UB, and possibly AV). not only that, but hard vore and graphical digestion would be allowed, as this is a "vore" community. if you keep the previous two banned, then there is no reason to call this place an "adult" forum anymore, as well a no reason to keep the underage out of this place.

I could go ahead and bash at members individually, but I'm not. I mature enough to ignore an RP that I don't like, and I'm mature enough to log out if I really don't like it. the chat seems to work on a "first come, first serve" system... if someone's already using it, you can decide to either stay, or go. the majority of us already have IMs, so why tell someone to get out and have their RP somewhere else if you can do it yourself? they were in the chatbox first, so that seems unfair. until we get a new public chatbox system with multiple rooms, it seems that we'll be stuck with this pink rectangle we know and love (despite all the trouble it has caused us then and now).

I'm actually along the same lines of Zeph. I'm probably not on the chatbox as much as Zeph, but like him, I do read the archives, and I rarely see birth RPs. I mean I've only been to the chatbox one time and actually encountered a brith RP (although in reality, I actually have a stronger fetish for pregnancy than I do for vore and would love to encounter more...anyways that's not the point). I also agree that you might actually be logging on the instant that these RPs are happening, causing you to think that it's an overused topic. As for the topic of birth itself in the chatbox, I've only actually seen it only twice; once the archives, and the only one time I've actually encountered it. And trust me when I say neither RPs were as descriptive on the childbirth that would make anyone squeamish. Once again, this is an adult Pokemon forum, ergo, people who join this forum should be able to keep cool around these descriptive scenes.

You raise several good points, Zeph, but my primary basis is honestly on the things that are already banned on the chat. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I kind of infer that pregnancy as a kink is another thing that a lot of people tend to be squeamish about. Once again, I can't speak for everyone, but walking in on the middle of a pregnancy scene is as disturbing to me as logging on in the middle of a graphic scat scene would be for most. Given that the things that are currently officially banned on the chat (scat, watersports, excessive blood and graphic death) are all actually things that could arise from some sort of vore RP, it's just a little ridiculous to me that something similarly edgy and yet pretty much completely unrelated to vorish stuff is completely unrestricted.

Also, yesterday wasn't when I hit a 'breaking point' on the issue, really. I've been getting fed up with it for a while, and I actually wasn't on the chat at all. However, I -did- talk with people about it, which is what brought me to the conclusion I gave. Maybe, indeed, I AM just unlucky and end up wandering in right during RP content that makes me uncomfortable, but isn't that the reason for banning that sort of content anyway? The fact that anyone can wander right into the chat? As mentioned in my initial post here, I know plenty of people that enjoy all four of the things that are already banned; ergo, just because people like RPing something isn't grounds in and of itself for that subject to be allowed. The reason for subject matter to be banned on the public, warningless chat that any member can wander into on a moment's notice is to prevent members from being alienated by material they dislike.

Also, I never said the explicit -reason- was that I, personally, dislike pregnancy RPs; granted, I did point out that I dislike the subject, but I also pointed out that I, too, do my best to tolerate even the few types of content I dislike. The problem is that not everyone is able to deal with subject matter they don't like in a mature fashion; many people have difficulty refraining from reading the posts that go up while they are trying to chat, and thus end up avoiding the chat, or the forum as a whole, due to being unable to avoid unwanted, edgy content.

The problem with pregnancy, in my opinion, isn't my personal opinion of it; it's the fact that it's similar to the content that is already not allowed, in that it's sort of a niche interest that those who don't totally like will tend to outright despise. Many people likely don't want to log into the chat and immediately be greeted with a pregnancy-based scene, just the same as most people aren't going to want to log in and immediately find a bloodbath.

I would like to earnestly apologize for anything I said that was vague or unclear in my initial post; it was really late at night when I put that up, so I just wanted to finish up and get to sleep, as opposed to reading through it and making edits before posting. So, I'm sorry if anything was either difficult to understand or somewhat emotionally charged.

Reiterating once more, just so it's clear: my problem with pregnancy stuff is NOT solely due to personal preference. It's the fact that pregnancy is a fetish that fits with the other banned content as something that, though it does appeal to multiple members of the forum, disturbs and bothers other members of the forum. If "we can be mature and ignore stuff we don't like" was grounds to allow things, why ban any content at all?

i agree ther is way to much preg.

I would have to agree with Houndoomed on this issue. Granted, I'm hardly ever on the chatbox, but I agree with most of his points. I'm fairly tolerant of most fetishes, and even this isn't really all that bad, but I think his best point has to do with new members. If I decided I wanted to check out the chatbox one of these days, and a birthing rp was happening, I would probably be detered from coming back any time soon because I would get the wrong impression of what goes on there.

Some people, especially mates, do like to actually have children and keep them, and it is understandible if they want to bring them to life in front of friends to share the moment, but if people are just poppin out kids for the fetish of it, it should probably be taken to a private rp or forum. Even if most people in the chatbox aren't offended by it, it is a rare fetish, and most people wouldn't exactly want it there, but will simply put up with it when it occurs. If this is the case, the ones doing the birthing should display some courtesy to those who are offended by it and take it elsewhere.

On this site, the chatbox is where most people are at a given time. I assume most people here like vore and yiff, and there are plenty of ways to do both with tweaking and different variations and such, and there are many other common fetishes as well and ones that don't offend many people. So, the material in the chatbox should br kept to something the vast majority of the audience can enjoy or at least not be offended by. Not to say everything that isn't common should be banned, but it should be kept to a limit and situations such as birthings shouldn't be present on a daily basis.

I agree with Zeph. I'm sorry but this is impractical and kinda ridiculous o.O

I mean, unbirth isn't banned, so how ELSE are they going to get out? XDDD What you're suggesting basically requires the fetish to be banned or censored and you're basically hating on the fetish =<

I think a much better solution would be to integrate seperate rooms for say, certain categories of RP and have an OOC room and have the OOC room be the default.

Also, I don't consider unbirth rare. I think it's under-appreciated, perhaps. But that's my personal feelings on the matter.

I think that unbirth doesn't desserve this treatment any more than say cock vore.

I wasn't talking about unbirth. x.x

I was talking about pregnancy. That is, flat out pregnancy. Not 'somebody gets stuffed into the womb and pushed back out later.' Nothing vorish in any way about it at all. I was referring to sexual content, followed by childbirth from the female participant of said sexual content. Or the receiving herm, as the case almost invariably is.

You can't allow it just because some people enjoy having a pregnancy scenario as a follow-up to unbirth; some people like having graphic digestion and/or scat as a follow-up to oral and anal vore, but graphic digestion and scat are banned too. Why exactly should pregnancy be any different?

Houndoomed wrote:I wasn't talking about unbirth. x.x

But banning pregnancy would very directly involve unbirth is what I was trying to point out.

If you ban pregnancy in general, you're basically banning unbirth. It's not a follow-up, because, really, if they don't go in then it's really stretching the limits of what can be called unbirth in the first place. (*Artemis is shot for that pun*)

Houndoomed wrote:Why exactly should pregnancy be any different?

Shall we be banning the coming out of any lower exits alive and/or graphic exits?

My point is I think that banning pregnancy in general would be a rather vague ban.

What about childbirth specifically? Or even more specifically, graphic lower exit scenerios?

Artemis wrote:

Houndoomed wrote:I wasn't talking about unbirth. x.x

But banning pregnancy would very directly involve unbirth is what I was trying to point out.

If you ban pregnancy in general, you're basically banning unbirth. It's not a follow-up, because, really, if they don't go in then it's really stretching the limits of what can be called unbirth in the first place. (*Artemis is shot for that pun*)

Houndoomed wrote:Why exactly should pregnancy be any different?

Shall we be banning the coming out of any lower exits alive and/or graphic exits?

My point is I think that banning pregnancy in general would be a rather vague ban.

What about childbirth specifically? Or even more specifically, graphic lower exit scenerios?

this conversation is a bit old, and there really is no point in arguing. as far as I know, pregnancy has already been banned in the chatbox... at least until further notice. unbirthing in the chatbox is perfectly fine though.

basically, having a yiffy RP in the chatbox, where it ends with the female of th e RP saying that she will have a litter within the next few days, then talking about how pregnant she is during the pregnant phase until the time comes, and then RPing the birthing process has been banned. please take notice that this is in the forum's chatbox (not the chatango as far as I know...) and not the entire forum, so pregnancy is fine in thread RPs. yeah, I still find it silly that pregnancy's been banned, but the sudden pregnancy increase in the chatbox began to annoy many members.

Now there is a room for the preg stuff so people don't have to look at it if they don't want to.

Zephyrnereus wrote:
this conversation is a bit old, and there really is no point in arguing. as far as I know, pregnancy has already been banned in the chatbox... at least until further notice. unbirthing in the chatbox is perfectly fine though.

The Rules wrote:We're an adult and open forum, so the Chatbox is also open to most any form of RP. However, there are some boundaries. Anything that results in scat, watersports, excessive blood, or graphic death is not allowed on the Chatbox. Digestion in vore (fatal vore) is alright as long as it is not overly graphic. (In other words, keep the digestion details limited.)

Er... I don't see it banned. Is it somewhere else on the forums? Also, unbirthing indefinitely results in pseudo pregnancy. If "pregnancy" as you call it is to be banned the wording should be changed to specifically ban the "natural" kind as I'd call it, imo.

Nothing is banned in the chatango because there is a seperate chatango room for "hardcore" fetishes.

Unbirth may be a pseudo-birth but it's still considered a type of vore, however an Admin has put a temporary ban on it in the chat box for the time being until we're able to finish discussing it. Until then it's still not allowed in the main chatbox, but the chatango chat's are perfectly fine to have them in or on the boards, that's what they're there for really

I guess as long as it's clear Unbirth is exempt for being a type of vore ._.;