Pokemon Theorizing

Any Pokemon phenomenon you find interesting or odd, and yet rather inexplicable? Some continuity issue with a legendary got you down? Just how many forms could Rotom theoretically have, if you put the proper motor on different appliances? How do the abilities of different Pokemon work? Conspiracy theories regarding the evil teams? ... Heck, conspiracy theories between Pokemon and IRL? Talk about it here! If there's demand for a... more adult section, perhaps regarding this Skitty-on-Wailord action and whatnot, request and I'll put a topic in the correspondingly mature forum~

So, let's consider Wobbufett. It looks and behaves like one of those inflatable punching bags. I mean, seriously. On the Super Smash Bros. games, it even teeters back and forth when struck. Indeed, the only time it really protects itself... is if that mysterious black tail is attacked. Why is this? Well... perhaps the bulk of Wobbufett's body is, indeed, a punching bag! By which I mean: few nerves and thus little sensation, lots of excess, shielding tissue relative to actual organs... and, indeed, perhaps its face isn't even real! It's tail has eyes, is oddly colored, and is the only part of Wobbufett that warrants self-defense when attacked. So... maybe Wobbufett's tail is actually Wobbufett's body, and the rest more or less an elaborate decoy? If not the 'true' body, maybe the tail is Wobbufett's 'head,' so to speak, containing the brain and therefore protecting it from harm while Wobbufett allows its foe to beat up on it? It's got eyes, after all... whereas Wobbufett's readily-visible eyes are perpetually closed. The main body being fake would certainly explain the fact that female Wobbufett have permanent 'lipstick...'

Next is the Ralts line. Humanoid Psychic-type Pokemon, the general ability for the evolved forms being the power to sense emotions, and some rather powerful space-rending powers; Gardevoir's stated to be able to produce a miniature black hole, after all. Still, this is par for the course among Psychic-types, who have a long, long history of being overpowered, either in-game... or in-character, as my constant whining about teleportation and telekinesis would indicate~ But, to get off of that subject, there happens to be one curiosity about the Ralts line. A fairly major one. Its Egg Group. Indeterminate. That's right, they aren't in the Humanshape group with a lot of Fighting types, Magmar, Jynx, et cetera. They're with the ghosts, the poison types, and other such odd little things like Castform. Why? Are they actually some type of spirit? Perhaps aliens? Incomprehensible, holy beings taking on a humanoid form so as to have a comprehensible appearance with which to interact with mortals? Of course, they seem very, very benevolent; Gardevoir would die to protect its trainer, says the Pokedex. Angels in disguise, perhaps?

Fucking Magnemites, how do they work?

But seriously, how do most rock and steel types function? They're usually in such forms that make you question their biology. For instance, Magnemites have no consumption method...do they self-sustain themselves on magnetism? Plus, being genderless, how are more created? Do they self replicate? If they were put in a vacuum, would they be able to create others? Or is there simply a set number in the world originating from a perfectly happenstance trash heap?

Or Geodudes? Do they have a digestive system? Do they eat rocks? Are they cannibalistic then? How do they digest? Is there any sensible method to their existence? Or reproduction?

And what about Mantine, Slowbro, and Magneton? Their evolution really isn't dependent on having the other Pokémon around...just leveling. Well, Mantine needs a Remorad in the party, but it doesn't use it! Slowbro doesn't need a shelder, and Magneton doesn't need two other Magnemites.

I won't even get into ghost type Pokémon. And Cubones/Marowaks with their magically adapting bone weapons and skull helmets. AND DIGLETTS. DEAR GOD THE MIND-TEARING MADNESS.

Spoink needs to keep a pearl on its head at all times to keep focused so it can stay bouncing. However, Spoink must first find a pearl big enough to be useful for this. So how does Spoink survive long enough to find a large enough pearl?

For that matter, how does Spoink get the thing on its head in the first place?

...Actually, here's a better question. Spoink: What the hell?

A big one for me was TCoD's age old Magma Aqua RS consipiracy. Beyond that digletts and magenezone
How is one of the three mageneton parts get chosen to dominate?
And with ALL gender unknown pokemon in hoenn and (presumably) Isshu, with no native ditto, how do they breed?

Kengaskahn. They are born as adults, who already have a child within their pouch. Meaning sometime within the egg, they had time to fully mature, mate, and bear offspring, all before they are born. W. T. F.

oddly..no one mention this yet...
HSOWA

Skitty + wailord = able to mate?

Seriously oo'

I want to know how pokémon can produce 10 eggs a minute if you're lucky.

Nope. Feebas, the fucking Feebas. If they need Pokeblocks to evolve, how the hell to they get them to evolve and where do they eat them if they have problems with being in the water? What do they put a flower in their head.....no, even that doesnt make sense....WTF is going on to make them evolve!? I DONT SEE A POKEBLOCK SITTING NEXT TO ME! *Pokeblock next to me* Ok that was a fluke but still, they are man made, so what the hell goes on?

Hmm... well, Feebas is the equivalent of Magikarp, right? Outside game-canon, Magikarp evolves as a result of so much pent-up fury from, y'know... being Magikarp. So, basically, in-game, it evolves at level 20. In other media, it's basically... Magikarp gets kicked, and wants to kick back, hard.

So, perhaps Feebas is the opposite? It's just as weak as Magikarp; however, though its in-game evolution is based on beauty, perhaps its out-of-game (natural?) evolution is by facing suffering, but remaining tranquil instead of becoming vengeful.

That'd also probably explain their respective rarities; Gyarados, which evolves via rage from the single most abused Pokemon ever, can be found pretty much anywhere with water by either surfing or using a Super Rod. If we assume that Feebas is just as abused, but can only evolve by being completely forgiving... that thing's got pretty much no chance. Very, very few of 'em would manage to evolve (Wild Milotic cannot be found). Feebas, being Hoenn's Magikarp, is just as abused but unable to evolve as a direct result, so... logically, it follows that Feebas would get killed off, whereas Magikarp get injured and evolve.

In short: Magikarp evolves as a defense mechanism, destroys some stuff, makes lots of new baby Magikarps.
Feebas evolves by LACKING a defense mechanism, and thus... not too many survive to make baby Feebas. Super, super rare.

Of course, that's just an idea. x3

Vitichin as #000 in Isshu dex. *coughthecannonmissningno.cough*

Ninjamander wrote:oddly..no one mention this yet...
HSOWA

Skitty + wailord = able to mate?

Seriously oo'

I mentioned it in the very first post. So there. |3 I like the picture, though, for some reason. xP

Anyways, here's an idea that might interest you people. Girafarig's tail is sentient, and bites things. Incidentally, the inspiration for both Girafarig's name and sentient tail is the anagram, a word that is the same forward and backward.

So... is Girafarig some sort of bodily anagram? o3o Like... ehm, dang it. Completely lost my train of thought. It was a freaky train, though.

I think you mean a palindrome, an anagram means a word made from the scrambled letters of another.
But I see what you mean about the pokémon itself being a palindrome.

And about the Feebas, it is plausable that human intervention causes them to evolve and that they wouldn't evolve naturally in the wild.

Maybe, but just finding it is enough to show that that pokemon is A) Not badass enough to evolve on its own and B) Its not as strong as Magicarp is to evolve from anger, which means, it'll never live without humans.....or the highly implausible C) It mates with Magicarp, but never has enough Feebas to get more so they get very rare, but occasionally breed.

Loko Mocho wrote:A big one for me was TCoD's age old Magma Aqua RS consipiracy. Beyond that digletts and magenezone
How is one of the three mageneton parts get chosen to dominate?
And with ALL gender unknown pokemon in hoenn and (presumably) Isshu, with no native ditto, how do they breed?

Some Pokemon are noted specifically in the 'Dex to be created in ways other than breeding. For example, Banette is the result of an abandoned doll gaining a begrudged sentience against its former owner, Exeggutor can drop a head that forms one-sixth of a new Exeggcute, and Voltorb is implied to be... an unexpected byproduct of Pokeball production, or something. Many of the genderless Pokemon fit into the category of being being formed by human activities; Grimer and Muk are sentient toxic waste, Porygon is a direct human creation, and Voltorb and Magnemite seem to be, somehow, byproducts of manufacturing.

As for the Beldum line, the 'main' genderless Pokemon native to Hoenn... two Beldum combine to form Metang, and two of those combine to form Metagross. In addition, they're more and more intelligent as they evolve; Beldum seems to have intelligence around that of an insectoid drone (amplified to meet the general sentience of Pokemon, of course), whereas Metagross is smarter than a supercomputer. To put a bit of a sci-fi spin on it, perhaps Metagross are actually intelligent enough to construct their own sentient unit-parts? An interesting chicken-egg idea, too; maybe the -last- stage of that evolution was developed first, and then set about making more of itself, albeit in smaller, self-sufficient units.

Dunno if you'd consider the Regi-things. I don't think they reproduce. :3 They seem to have been made by people. Or Regigigas. Which seems to have come from space or something, considering the Snowpoint Temple was built around its impact crater.

As for the dominant personality of multi-unit Pokemon? Well, depends; some seem way more synchronized than others. For example, Dodrio's heads are all in different emotional states, and will literally fight with one another for food. Magneton and Dugtrio, on the other hand, are more mentally in tune, but still move differently; this is probably actually a good thing for Dugtrio, since the staggered movements may help it dig. Magneton, on the other hand, is an imperfect unit; it's evolution is the result of exposure to the magnetic field at Mt. Coronet; perhaps the magnetic field puts the three Magnemites into perfect unison, so that they can combine completely into Magnezone. In this case, it isn't really one 'lead' personality; the three minds are all made the same by the magnetic field (fun touch; exposing iron to a magnetic field makes all its molecules point the same way), and the bodies merge into one being to follow suit.

Conversely, I'm not sure -any- of the separate parts of Magneton is dominant. Ever play Pokemon Stadium? Or one of the other 3D games? They seem to move around pretty interchangeably, especially since they're always shown differently in the anime, games, etc. One on top, two on the bottom? One on the bottom, two on top? Close together, far apart? Plus they all switch about during attack animations on the 3D games. Almost seems like more of a 'cooperative group of Magnemite' than a new Pokemon, until they merge completely into Magnezone.

In that regard, again, kinda like Metagross; smaller units merge together into one big, efficient unit. With one much more intelligent mind. x3

Houndoomed wrote:

Loko Mocho wrote:A big one for me was TCoD's age old Magma Aqua RS consipiracy. Beyond that digletts and magenezone
How is one of the three mageneton parts get chosen to dominate?
And with ALL gender unknown pokemon in hoenn and (presumably) Isshu, with no native ditto, how do they breed?

Conversely, I'm not sure -any- of the separate parts of Magneton is dominant. Ever play Pokemon Stadium? Or one of the other 3D games? They seem to move around pretty interchangeably, especially since they're always shown differently in the anime, games, etc. One on top, two on the bottom? One on the bottom, two on top? Close together, far apart? Plus they all switch about during attack animations on the 3D games. Almost seems like more of a 'cooperative group of Magnemite' than a new Pokemon, until they merge completely into Magnezone.

I like you points, but the other two units are still seperate (despite conjoined) inferior units? Anywho that explains a lot.

Loko Mocho wrote:

Houndoomed wrote:

Loko Mocho wrote:A big one for me was TCoD's age old Magma Aqua RS consipiracy. Beyond that digletts and magenezone
How is one of the three mageneton parts get chosen to dominate?
And with ALL gender unknown pokemon in hoenn and (presumably) Isshu, with no native ditto, how do they breed?

Conversely, I'm not sure -any- of the separate parts of Magneton is dominant. Ever play Pokemon Stadium? Or one of the other 3D games? They seem to move around pretty interchangeably, especially since they're always shown differently in the anime, games, etc. One on top, two on the bottom? One on the bottom, two on top? Close together, far apart? Plus they all switch about during attack animations on the 3D games. Almost seems like more of a 'cooperative group of Magnemite' than a new Pokemon, until they merge completely into Magnezone.

I like you points, but the other two units are still seperate (despite conjoined) inferior units? Anywho that explains a lot.

The other parts of Magneton turn into smaller units, yeah, but does this necessarily make them worse? Note, if they've all basically got the same mentality once they've become Magnezone, in that perfected synchronization of their three units, it means that the different parts can be given different jobs. Notice, the antenna and main eye are attached to the middle section, which would seem to allocate its function to "communication and sensation," and probably most mental functions. The other sections each have a magnet, which would make them more functional as weapons (or arms, depending on what the magnets are being used for).

As to -why- one unit gets bigger and the other two merge onto it, I'd say that either: a) The separate units decide amongst themselves which unit is going to be the 'main' unit, or b) It's decided completely at random. However, it doesn't really matter; as I said, they would basically share a mind as a result of exposure to Mt. Coronet's magnetic field, and all three mentalities would probably be housed in that main unit. The two 'abandoned' bodies that result from this become appendages to the main body, and are controlled jointly by all three instead of solely by their original selves.

Those might be good points. But here is another mystery if the main body of magnezone handles most sensory information, then why do the sub parts (I tend to refer to those as the shoulders, since I see the magnets as the arms) Have eyes as well? Three eyes in the center body would be acceptable for depth perception. You could also argue that there could have been an advantage to having the biggest eye set in the back (sneaking up on it would be more difficult, and it's back would look creepy ) My only guess it that it's set up the way it is to get a close up view of its arms and be able to have a range of vision free of frontal blind spots, otherwise male spinaraks would have a field day climbing up its face to show off to potential mates.

Also someone asked how we can get ten eggs in a minuet.... Well you know how Lopunnies can get, we'll just leave it at that before we get this moved to the mature section.

I've always been slightly disturbed by the nature of catching pokemon. Many are shown to have free will and high intelligence, and they actively resist capture.
However, upon capture, they almost always become cooperative and subservient, no matter how powerful they are. They don't seem to lose free will, nor are they implied to be mentally enslaved, as some do rebel, like Ash's Charizard.
Do pokemon have a genetic disposition for submission? Domestication would make sense, but then you have legendary pokemon. Why would Mewtwo ever agree to continue to be captured? What makes them remain "yours" once they are outside of the ball?
It's all so confusing.