If pokemon were real,would humans be able to fight and kill any of them?

Humans wouldn't have any weapons or guns.Maybe only rocks,sticks and things found in nature.
Ok here is a list(a big list :/ ) of the pokemon l think we would be able to kill(not easy but still possible):
Squirtle(maybe)
Metapod
Caterpie
Kakuna
Pidgey
Rattata
Sandshrew
Diglett
Meowth
Poliwag
Abra
farfetch
horsea
magikarp
eevee
porygon
sentret(:/)
ledyba(this would make a hell of a mess)
Cleffa
igglypuff
togepi(if you are cruel enough to kill such a cutie)
wooper(not sure because it can hide underwater to avoid rocks etc and if you touch it so as to punch it or grab it you will feel a lot of pain because its body is covered with poisonous slime.and it can injure you with mud bomb,surf etc)
dunsparce
remoraid
phanpy
smeargle
mudkip(difficult if even possible)
surskit(easy although surf and water pulse would be tricky)
nincada(from a distance yes,but close to it would be dangerous since it can slash you with x scissor)
azurill
skitty
barboach
feebas
luvdisc
bidoof
kricketot(aka victim)
burmy
combee(they dont even have a stinger..but when they are in big packs noo..impossible..)
chatot
finneon
happiny(very difficult since it is very bulky..and it can crash your skull with the stone it holds)
From gen5 the only pokemon that we would be able to kill is this small deer pokemon.I cant think of anything else.[b]

You'd need a very big excuse to not allow humans advanced weaponry.
I was watching a post-apocalyptic film about what happened if something happened to the planet and humans were forced back into hunter/gathering tribes.
We were all in agreement that it was incredibly far-fetched that they couldn't even remember how to make metal.

But to run with an example that, one (or even more) of every pokémon surprise attacked a completely unprepared suburb of untrained humans with no outside help:
A few humans would die in the attack before the remainder of them would band together gather weaponry of whatever sort they could find and counter attack. Very probably managing to kill them all. The only ones which I think they wouldn't be able to take on would be Steelix or some legendaries. And even they would eventually be worn down by repeated guerilla attacks (largely considered to be the best tactic in such a situation) or even basic traps.

As much as it's possible to believe the movies that it's possible for the human race to be wiped out by creatures which can shoot heatbeams from their hands, in real life there would always be something humans could do to counter attack and wipe out the aggressors. They're just too tough in the long run.

If if the pokémon are allowed special powers (hyper beams, draco meteors, psychic powers) then the chances are that someone would be able to harness the power for themselves.

Cazmir wrote:You'd need a very big excuse to not allow humans advanced weaponry.
I was watching a post-apocalyptic film about what happened if something happened to the planet and humans were forced back into hunter/gathering tribes.
We were all in agreement that it was incredibly far-fetched that they couldn't even remember how to make metal.

But to run with an example that, one (or even more) of every pokémon surprise attacked a completely unprepared suburb of untrained humans with no outside help:
A few humans would die in the attack before the remainder of them would band together gather weaponry of whatever sort they could find and counter attack. Very probably managing to kill them all. The only ones which I think they wouldn't be able to take on would be Steelix or some legendaries. And even they would eventually be worn down by repeated guerilla attacks (largely considered to be the best tactic in such a situation) or even basic traps.

As much as it's possible to believe the movies that it's possible for the human race to be wiped out by creatures which can shoot heatbeams from their hands, in real life there would always be something humans could do to counter attack and wipe out the aggressors. They're just too tough in the long run.

If if the pokémon are allowed special powers (hyper beams, draco meteors, psychic powers) then the chances are that someone would be able to harness the power for themselves.

This, all of it, every bit, nothing else.

Pretty much what Caz said, there would have to be some sort of excuse for humans not to have some sort of access to technology. But even if there was no access to weapons and all we had to use was household items, humans would still have a larger kill list.


Keep in mind, pokemon have vulnerabilities to the elements and also behave/react as said chosen elements.

A high pressured hose/ super soaker can take care of most fire/rock types.
Note: A super soaker can be modded to allow more pressurized shots.

You can also put chemicals in a super soaker too, even make them into makeshift flamethrowers ((Don't do it. ))

A lot of house hold chemicals ((Once again, don't do it unless you want a Darwin award)) Can be mixed to create deadly reactions.

You also have things like Insecticides,pesticides,herbicides,etc that can be found in most stores.

Primitive weapons such as spears, bows, melee weapons are easily obtainable and craftable.

Okay,first of all the reason l don't allow humans to have weapons and guns is because if we had guns etc against pokemon then we would beat every one of them easily.I mean,they are f@cking guns.One shot and they are gone.And also another reason is that Pokemon are quite like animals.They won't kill you with their special powers from the word go.They will approach you and if you harm them then they will try to escape or kill you.While humans,as they are smarter,will try to kill them with their shotgun as soon as they come across them.I allow rocks and natural things.Not pesticides and super soakers as you said.These are manmade so no.
And also why do you Gazmir think that humans will be able to survive?Let me tell you why.Because you only think of pokemon as small cute animals as you see them in the anime.Take a look at Silver5's realistic drawings of pokemon and then write back(at deviantART).

Do you still really believe that you can beat a gigantic tarantula which shoots electric bolts(galvantula) or a werewolf(zoroark)?Or do you think we,humans,can survive againsts Gardevoir's psychic attacks?
And do you really believe that we could take on thousands of each pokemon individually and win?Imagine the sky,the sea,the land.Skarmories,pidgeots,dragons etc flying,the seas full of sea monsters and the land taken over by millions of other pokemon(and there wouldnt be just 1 or 2 of each pokemon species but thousands of each).As soon as a submarine or a ship set off for the ocean to 'kill' them they would be dragged under the sea by the whirlpools and tidal waves the pokemon would create.I don't think we stand a chance except from the pokemon l already included in my list.Especially Cleffa,happiny,igglypuff and caterpie would be very easy since they don't have any sp.powers so they would try to bite and scratch but with a few kicks they would die because they are veryyy small(and even these would injure you till u kill them).The only reason that we would be able to defeat the pokemon I listed is because they are veeeryyyy,very,veryy small and most of them don't have sp.powers(most of them are about 30cm tall or 40cm at best)They are too small to kill but they can damage.So the game is over for us.

Uhhhhh, no, see pokemon have this thing called Wild see and we have organization in giant groups, even with packs or schools of them we can make ourselves stronger by turning their world against them, water pokemon near your village? Dumb waste and wait for them all to die! Muk there now with his forest friends? Fire on a stick!

And secondly they are not organized enough to 'use a whirlpool every time some sort of 'machine' was made' they are animals really like you said and wouldn't be smart enough, if we are not counting man made pokemon we would still have a good chance without guns (to start off with until we developed them in the future) We changed the world around us to survive, if a pokemon can't live where it is then it will die, simple as that. Even if a pokemon is great at surviving where it lives the human can adapt to survive it too and soon drive out anything that would stand in its way with slowly developing weapons like before.

By this time we would have advanced to a point where simple things like cannons can shoot down a onix with good aiming and gunpowder could be used to blow up most areas, even with medieval weapons we could survive against many odds, the reason 'legendaries' hid from humans is because many of them are scared of our number, if we knew where lugia where or those cat things that run around the land went we could kill them with numbers and brute force, not to mention we are very intelligent.

The thought of anything is that, think of it this way, the humans in their universe could survive as cavemen then so could we and the fact that they lasted long enough to become more advanced then us shows that we could protect ourselves and overcome the pokemon in the past.

Even the possibly of our extinction is laughable, unless they become as advanced as us (Which is no argument really) then we would lose, but that is simply not the case.

You'd be surprised at what we can find in nature that can be used as natural chemical weapons...

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/39809.html

Seriously, don't ever touch that plant unless you want 2nd/3rd degree burns <.<

Kharma wrote:And also another reason is that Pokemon are quite like animals.They won't kill you with their special powers from the word go.They will approach you and if you harm them then they will try to escape or kill you.While humans,as they are smarter,will try to kill them with their shotgun as soon as they come across them.I allow rocks and natural things.Not pesticides and super soakers as you said.These are manmade so no.

So while you admit that humans are smarter you don't allow then to use anything intelligent to fight them. You don't allow someone to put a rock on a stick to make a club. Or a sharpened rock to make a knife/spear.
That is by the ice age's standards why we are stronger now. If we add into the fact that we are now more intelligent then we can use natural things to make "manmade" things.

I understand what you're asking and to re-phrase the question it would be "If pokémon were real, would chimpanzees be able to fight and kill any of them?"

WOW people what's wrong with you.That's really frustrating.First of all,I didn't say that Pokemon are not clever and they are certainly not like animals.They are wayyy smarter and their intelligence reaches ours(it's like they are humans in pokemon costumes.Look how they behave.Pokemon ARE smart).There are even Pokemon whose intelligence exceeds ours(See:Psychic types).I just said that they have animal insticts.Not animal intelligence.As animals,most of them will try to flee and avoid fight but if they are angered then they will attack with their powers.While we,as humans,with human insticts won't try to flee if we see some big 'animals' but we will try to fight them and exterminate them as soon as possible.So if we had weapons then we wouldn't hesitate to use them while Pokemon wouldn't just turn to you and fire a Hyper Beam.So,l repeat.Pokemon are very clever(way smarter than animals) but since they are animals they would have animal insticts(except from maybe dark types and Pokemon that aren't related to animals e.g. most rock types..).

Secondly,you all misunderstood my question.It is not going to be the WW3 nor the apocalypse .By my question I mean that if you came across a galvantula in the forest would you be able to defeat it.See?In this situation you wouldn't have a gun with you nor would you have time to take a stick and a rock and tie them together to make a club.You would only hurry to find rocks from the ground.Take them and start throwing.See?It wouldn't be planned.Let's say that those creatures were developing inside the Earth(Do you know the theory of Hollow Earth?).I know that this is impossible but let's just suppose.They would come outside from the poles and then start moving and spreading all over the world.Please don't suppose that we would know anything.We wouldn't.So,would you still have time to make or even find something to help you fight them if you came across one of them?Let alone a whole army of them.Imagine NYC being attacked by these creatures.Thousands of every pokemon destroying the city and killing people.The people would panic and run around causing havoc.Then the police would arrive and they would die too.What would guns do to creatures who can use Protect whenever they want to protect themselves and then attack with their beams?(and I don't think a human would survive an Ice Beam or a Surf or a T-bolt).Helicopters and tanks would come next but what would they do?Psychic types would take good care of them.Just one alakazam could turn a tank into scrap metal with it's mind.Let alone that most steel types wouldn't feel a think.Submarines,ships etc wouldn't do a thing since as soon as they set off for the ocean they would be dragged underwater.And yes Pokemon would do that(Go see the last episode of Gen4 Pokemon.Team Rocket got attacked by a mob of tentcruel while they were in their magikarp machine).
I insist that we would be able to defeat the pokemon I listed because they are very small and weak.(Maybe Squirtle shouldn't be in the list)

I think Kharma was talking about in the far past. Assume we lived and evolved into humans in the Pokemon world. Before we got all of our current technology we would have had to make due with far less.

I do believe that in that situation, humans would have developed some survival mechanisms. Apparently rocks are a good method of deterring attacks and getting Pokemon to run away, if you believe the safari zone XD. But actually, you might be surprised how effective a pointy rock tied to the end of a long stick can be (a spear).

Most creatures are in fact very cautious. Even with their impressive set of weaponry, they will be more likely to fight those who they don't view will fight back, and merely defend against those that they think might. Battles are often won by 'reading' the opponent's capabilities and hyping your own to get your opponent to 'read' wrong, as the loser will often just run off if they don't think they can win without significant risk of injury or death. "Live to fight another day..."

Of course, don't trespass against an angry mother... When it's not your own life, but that of someone you care deeply about, you tend to take a few more risks...

Okay guys.Tell me you are doing this on purpose!Tell me this because I don't want to believe that you are actually that..unintelligent.I am not talking about the days where we were still chimpanzees and the only fucking thing we knew was to barely light a fire.I am talking about now.You are fucking going on a fucking walk in the fucking forest and a fucking ariados fucking pops in front of you.You don't have the fucking time to pick up anything more than a fucking rock or else you are going to get in it's menu.Nor do you carry on you a fucking gun.NOOO.Okay?!! Can you beat it?Tell me can you? Now a fucking small cleffa jumps right in front of you.You kick it and continue your walk.See the difference?! Oh my goodness that's more difficult than I thought.

Oh please, really? Are you thinking? Your the one that said, Human Vs Pokemon = GAME OVER humans not us and you have to stick with that or say you where wrong as quote on quote:

Kharma wrote:So the game is over for us.

If you really believe on a full on fight we would lose then your wrong, pokemon are like animals, they can't adapt as well as humans or develop new weapons to fight us. We can do that, we can change the angle of a spear to pierce the right spot or make armour and cloths to protect the right places.

The fact is your not being smart right now, if you didn't want people to question your ideas then why put a conversation up and ask people about it? If your not prepared to face what other people have to think or their hard facts then just delete or lock this thread now, seriously.

The fact is that humans would survive against them and even live long enough to see themselves win, physics can't stop every weapon at once and steel pokemon can only shield so much, they can get tired while we batter them down, this isn't the argument on where a single unarmed human can't defeat an Aggron but on the fact that how we match up as a race against their races.

Hard fact is we won't lose, we don't lose, we survive, it is everythings nature to develop, we just do it faster and better then most so:

Game over pokemon.

Do you know what's really wrong about you?That you only see what you want to see.We adapt better?Adapt better to what conditions?(pokemon even have adaptability as their ability lol)..No seriously now.Why don't you see what pokemon can do to defeat us instead of only focusing on what we would do?What's the best things we could do?Tanks,helicopters and special equipment.I don't think we would throw nukes and atomic bombs for mass killing since humans would die too.And what did you just say?Psychics can't control every weapon? Or kill us? Let me tell you something.Only and only psychic type pokemon could exterminate us with their psychic abilities.Not only would they kill us but they would destroy every machinery or weaponry we have.Now imagine millions of them and other pokemon.We would die before we could even kill half of them(And even if we didn't die it would be something like a major apocalypse..very few would live).Why do you believe so much in humans over some huge creatures with super powers?
See some realistic pokemon drawings(and by that i mean go check Silver5's deviantart).Then you will understand what creatures they really are.Even the pokemon I listed would be difficult to take down(at least scary) unarmed.
Let alone that there would be ghost types.

Let me tell you something, know Sweden? They train every single one of their people to use a gun at the age of 18 and make people do service for a couple mouths or so before letting them go back home, now add to the fact that they can summon up their whole country to defend itself in just mere minutes how will pokemon fight back? Do pokemon work like an army? Do pokemon care for war? Both is no. The fact is that lets say bullets went flying at Alakazam, some he could stop, but soon the pressure will be too much and they will go right through him, they can stop some but not all, the speed and power would likely rip through one before it could realize what went on from it and stopping a missile would work for, a few seconds before it blew up and they had to hold it in in which they can't hold.

They don't know how to jam or use weapons like us, they could snap them in two but by the time they focus one gun, oh wait! I'm dead because someone from behind stabbed me and shot me in the back!

The thing is I am looking at how strong pokemon are, (mewtwo is not real at this point because we haven't made him yet) soon we would bring out classified weapons of god knows how strong to turn them to dust and tanks are very heavy as so they cannot be easily lifted, how the hell a Aggron or another strong pokemon gets close before that cannon blows them apart with the fact that it will be covered by infantry and air support to back them this is not Battle for Las Vegas or Attack of Mars, they where winning because they where, cause what? More advanced in technology then us. Add to the point that chemical weapons and flamethrower and oh! Hand made weapons can easily be made we would win against any type! Well done ghost type! I give you a hose and acid to work with!

And if we should be losing then we will blow ourselves up to kill them, either humans win or everything dies, fact.

"I don't want to believe you are actually that unintelligent."

"Do you know what's wrong with you?"

Kharma, cut the insults. Now. It's one thing to have a disagreement, but this is edging dangerously close to being a full-blown flame war. Just because Casmir and blooddaemon don't agree with you doesn't give you the right to spew vitriol at them.

*just to point something out*

You all are saying that "humans are smarter and more intelligent" I had a good laugh at this. I'd like to see a human out-think an Alakazam with an IQ of 5000, a Metagross which has a brain like a super computer, or even a simple Grumpig that can control the minds and bodies of it's opponent. Apparently these pokemon could easily form in bands and organizations just as Mewtwo had done in the movies. There are plenty of other pokemon that are highly intelligent such as latias, latios, and some of the canine pokemon as well.

Dog In Da Grass wrote:*just to point something out*
I'd like to see a human out-think an Alakazam with an IQ of 5000, a Metagross which has a brain like a super computer, or even a simple Grumpig that can control the minds and bodies of it's opponent. Apparently these pokemon could easily form in bands and organizations just as Mewtwo had done in the movies. There are plenty of other pokemon that are highly intelligent such as latias, latios, and some of the canine pokemon as well.

I'd like to see a pokemon:

Heavy wrote:" Out smart bullet "

Just my 12 cent.

I Loled. I like to see human outsmart Bullet Punch. Might just be me and my bias against humans. But I'd say the ghost types like gengar could easily outsmart a bullet unless the bullets are considered steel type in that case fire, steel, electric, and water types would all be resistant to the bullets.

Yeah Blooddaemon.You did it again.You imagine one tank with a bunch of air support and infantry versus just one Aggron.Why the hell one Aggron?Are they too shy to go help it?And yeah the same fucking thing with Alakazam.Why would just one alakazam try to stop 10 guns shooting him?Where are the other Alakazam?Are they shy too?And Alakazam won't only try to control the bullets and stop them with Psychic but it can easily make a psychic barrier to protect himself while beating the hell out of the soldiers with Psychic.Cannon ball?Really?Not only can it stop it from hitting him but he can also send it back to the soldiers to explode at them.Air force?Magnezones would beat the crap out of the soldiers and humans with Magnet Bombs from the sky..And as for the argument that Pokemon wouldn't know how to organize and attack..Hmm,didn't I say that they would come both from land,air and sea?They would invade..So they would know that they should kill humans.And I agree with Dog in Da Grass.Are humans more intelligent than a creature with an IQ exceeding 5000 or from a super computer(metagross)..Or generally from Psychic Pokemon?
Anyway..
Water types would drown everyone with their tidal waves(surfs) or even kill them with huge water blasts(hydro cannon/pump).
Ice types would create massive,powerful blizzards everywhere and fire their lazers..oops I mean Ice beams..You know,to make us ice sculptures.
Grass types would mainly function during the day burning us with Solar beams and slicing us with leaf storm,razor leaves etc.Let alone that they could support other pokemon by making us fall asleep,paralyze us and poison us(and I don't think that we would find a cure for these since they are completely unknown substances)
Poison types..Would kill with Sludge bombs and sludge..They would create Sludge waves similar to this in Hungary or poison our water sources to kill us.
Ghosts... .... ....
Psychics..Let's just say that we wouldn't lay a hand on them.
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In other words,complete destruction for us.Have you watched 2012 or The day after tomorrow?Imagine this without any people left.

And I repeat.We could kill the pokemon I listed(with guns easily,without difficultly)..We would probably be able to kill some others as well but not all of them.

Yes..Dog In Da Grass ..You are the only one I can completely communicate well with.But in the real world I don't think there would be any weaknesses or resistances.These are just made for the game.If it was like that.We are considered normal types so a punch from a machamp would be fatal.

But still I don't think Pokemon would die from a single bullet.They would need lots more..Just consider that they resist ice beams,thunderbolts,flamethrowers and even hyper beams.A human would die before an ice beam hit him lol..

Yo, just take a chill pill Kharma and calm down. I can find it aggravating at times as well but it is best to stay calm unless you enjoy being banned. Take Houndoom's warning seriously because he has a point.

As for this topic, I say that in real life terms, An average human vs. an average Tiger. I say that the tiger would win every time (except the times when the tiger gets chased off by getting hit by a stick)

Also the poison types would wreak absolute havoc and would be able to poison huge population areas until a cure would eventually be made. but I'm not even sure if Muk has a brain and the only way I see one being killed is by blowing it up.

Electric types are another matter, they could create electromagnetic fields and screw with our technology or blast out an EMP like discharge to kill our communications or stop our electronics from working. doesn't help that it only takes a few milliamps of electricity to kill a man when an average lightning bolt has hundreds of amps flowing though it.

Kharma wrote:Yeah Blooddaemon.You did it again.You imagine one tank with a bunch of air support and infantry versus just one Aggron.Why the hell one Aggron?Are they too shy to go help it?And yeah the same fucking thing with Alakazam.Why would just one alakazam try to stop 10 guns shooting him?Where are the other Alakazam?Are they shy too?And Alakazam won't only try to control the bullets and stop them with Psychic but it can easily make a psychic barrier to protect himself while beating the hell out of the soldiers with Psychic.Cannon ball?Really?Not only can it stop it from hitting him but he can also send it back to the soldiers to explode at them.Air force?Magnezones would beat the crap out of the soldiers and humans with Magnet Bombs from the sky..And as for the argument that Pokemon wouldn't know how to organize and attack..Hmm,didn't I say that they would come both from land,air and sea?They would invade..So they would know that they should kill humans.And I agree with Dog in Da Grass.Are humans more intelligent than a creature with an IQ exceeding 5000 or from a super computer(metagross)..Or generally from Psychic Pokemon?
Anyway..
Water types would drown everyone with their tidal waves(surfs) or even kill them with huge water blasts(hydro cannon/pump).
Ice types would create massive,powerful blizzards everywhere and fire their lazers..oops I mean Ice beams..You know,to make us ice sculptures.
Grass types would mainly function during the day burning us with Solar beams and slicing us with leaf storm,razor leaves etc.Let alone that they could support other pokemon by making us fall asleep,paralyze us and poison us(and I don't think that we would find a cure for these since they are completely unknown substances)
Poison types..Would kill with Sludge bombs and sludge..They would create Sludge waves similar to this in Hungary or poison our water sources to kill us.
Ghosts... .... ....
Psychics..Let's just say that we wouldn't lay a hand on them.


And I repeat.We could kill the pokemon I listed(with guns easily,without difficultly)..We would probably be able to kill some others as well but not all of them.

They are not armys, they do not conflict and do not fight much, again a bullet is way faster then a 5000 IQ brain, the fact it that several pokemon will die in a single blast and bullet fire, a barrier can be brought down with force

It doesn't matter how strong they are, in the end its either:

Humans win and enslave all pokemon because they are too dangerous
or
Everyone and everything dies in a nuclear and atomic blast

The very fact that you have no faith in your own race is very sad, I sort of pity you really as the greatest thing a human has to determination to keep going for their own people. The thing is that pokemon can't steam roll over humans without us destroying them too and the fact again that 'they do not care enough to fight together like animals work'. Its not like suddenly one will think "Hey! I'm going to go kill the human race with my kind and every other pokemon and create a formation of pokemon!" Most likely it will be 'Ork/Orc tactics' of running at a machine gun like World War 2 at the French Beach Head.

Kharma wrote:But still I don't think Pokemon would die from a single bullet.They would need lots more..Just consider that they resist ice beams,thunderbolts,flamethrowers and even hyper beams.A human would die before an ice beam hit him lol..

Bullet through the eye for Eevee = brain damage = dead.
Bullet through the eye for Aggron = brain damage = dead.
Bullet through the eye for Alakazam = brain damage = dead.
Bullet through the eye for lugia = brain damage = dead.

Need I go on?

Kharma wrote:Yes..Dog In Da Grass ..You are the only one I can completely communicate well with.But in the real world I don't think there would be any weaknesses or resistances.These are just made for the game.If it was like that.We are considered normal types so a punch from a machamp would be fatal.

Why bring it up if your not going to include that? You just failed to see important facts in the game = What are you think when you tried arguing in the first place?


Pokemon will not risk attack for peace and nature unlike us who will take every advantage we get, if I hadn't made it clear before they would not be able to organize enough to band together to find a perfect force unlike us how we have the force already. Its not chess, its more like playing a game of team fortress 2 or League of legends: The one team with the best combo, teamwork and organization will win, pokemon do not care for war or army's at all, so we will pretty much smash them and when resistance is coming we will already have weakened them enough to have an upper hand.

We sort of 'think ahead before it happens.'

And I sort of stopped taking you seriously when you used "fuck" in your argument.

I stopped taking the both of you seriously when you started to rant and use boldface to try and emphasize your anger and your point. And don't you dare include me as part of the human side. I refuse to be acknowledged as human as my mind and soul is that of a canine and I refuse to believe anything other than that other than that my body is human. hell I'm doing my best to keep myself from raging over your arrogant language, Blooddaemmon, typical human I guess.

And who is to say that pokemon wouldn't be able to take every advantage that they could as well. I could easily see a massive army put together and led by an Alakazam (though I don't necessarily like this pokemon) and I could also see the pokemon army building concrete bunkers thanks to Conkledur's technology.

And will long range artillery like blastoise that has water cannons that can punch holes though steel even tanks could fall to a well organized pokemon army.

And you say that humans would eventually resort to nuclear Armageddon but you also fail to realize that that would only wipe out the humans as there are plenty of species on this earth (mainly insects) that can survive mass amounts of radiation, and this radiation is also what causes pokemon to evolve so they could quite possibly evolve into something far fiercer that anything comprehensible. (not even bringing in the possibility of God pokemon yet that live in other dimensions like Giratina, Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia)

Yeah that's how I talk when I get angry.If you don't like it then close your eyes whenever you come across that word.
Secondly, Electric types would completely 'kill' our technology and cause devastating explosions to our factories.So without technology how can we beat them now?
Secondly stop thinking that they are helpless animals who just attack without knowing what they do.Even animals are clever and they ambush their prey and they organize in packs to attack.So why not Pokemon..Wolfs attack in packs.Why not pokemon who are a lot smarter than them? And I think 5000 IQ is way better than 200 IQ(the highest IQ ever recorded on a human..somewhere around 200)...Alakazam and every other psychic type pokemon are way cleverer than us.They would read our minds before we could even plot our plans in our heads and prepare for the right time.
And excuse me? Tanks are way to heavy to lift..What? Lunatone in an episode lifted a vehicle way larger than a tank.Two Baltoys lifted a whole rocket..And their sp.attack is crappy.So imagine what stronger psychic types would do..Our tanks,helicopters and other vehicles would found theirselves floating in mid-air and suddenly being pushed away and explode.With all the humans in.Oops,death ratio is going up..
And don't try to change my question.Let's say they are extreterrestrial beings.Their planet has been destroyed and they want ours.Yes,they are gonna invade and try to kill us all so as to live where we used to live.
And of course..Bullets are magical don't you know?They all end up in the eyes of pokemon.
Will you make me a favor? Stop talking about guns and humans and talk a bit about pokemon attacks..An ice beam or a thunderbolt wouldn't even need to hit a human in the eye or the head ti kill him..Also usual pokemon attacks dont need to recharge while a gun needs to reload.What will a poor human trying to reload his gun get?Right...a beam on the face..
And yes try to break a psychic barrier with force.Is impossible the ideal word here?I think so..
And pokemon have instincts aside from intelligence.Psychic types will try to protect the other pokemon with their barriers etc while other pokemon like chimechos,blisseys etc will try to heal every pokemon who gets injured with Heal Pulse for mass recovery.

I am curious to find out what else you will come up with to convince me that humans would win..I have covered everything..I really don't know what else is remaining to say that I already haven't.
Pokemon are clever,some even cleverer than us.They can organize..They wouldn't just grow from the ground.

I agree with Dog 100% .. And also Pokemon could easily give an end to this conflict since only and only one Sheer Cold would exterminate the whole human race.Most of the pokemon would die too except from the ice types which they would love it.So Pokemon still win.

Oh I forgot to say that Cloyster's shell is capable of enduring a bomb so not sure about bullets
Also the navy would just fail.Thousands of pokemon using surf and creating massive tidal waves is not fun.
Army...well except from the pokemon attacking with their special powers....What about fissures and earthquakes by hippowdon and ground types?
think all of these and then answer

Just in defense of the barrios being able to be broken. Pokemon can know a move known as brick break. Brick break shatters light screen, barrier, and safeguard. I think it is well possible that a psychic barrier could be broken in the same manor if a human was able to learn brick break or developed something to do it for him.

Okay I suppose Brick Break would be like a really strong punch..Okay humans have it..Still,how would they run towards the pokemon who protects itself with this barrier and start punching it.As soon as they approached it it would blow them away.
And for the tanks..Forgot about steelix..Oh why is the ground shaking? Oh right its a steelix right under the tank ready to attack and destroy the tank and everythink near it..That's one of the ways tanks would be destroyed..And don't forget the attacks that can kill lots of people at once like draco meteor,hurricane,surf,earthquake..They are like natural destructions..

How about you think again? If Team Rocket where not enough reason for pokemon to band together and attack (WITHOUT the help from humans and their trainers) Then what do you think would happen? Every pokemon enslaved, gg pokemon.

Now add the fact that pokemon can be made a 'pet' for a 'trainer' then we can really just use their force against them with superior tactics and backed up weapons, again a pokemon is loyal to the trainer so their so no backstab once they come on our side.

Thirdly electric attacks can be countered by a nice layer of foam or plastic to absorb it which wouldn't costed much, gg electric types.

And water types? Like I said before waste and poison kills most plus electricity, the few left will have to either not fight or come out and die from *Inserted pet grass and fire and electric pokemon pokemon here*.

Again physic types and physically limited and weak plus are also limited in brain power that can be used (Unless they want to kill themselves and cause brain damage by using more of their functions up for attack power) Steel types hate fire and seem to take damage from fighting fire and rock I think a tank shell is more then enough and maybe some bullets.

What did I hear another armoured type that breaks machines? Armor piercing bullets on rifles and they are dead, artillery strikes can also be done you people you know, large group gone before they reach base.

Ice types would have trouble trying to chill a human when they can't get close,*insert flamethrower over here again* plus Sheer cold has low range so they can still be killed from afar like before.

Fire attacks are counters by flame retardant ware so nothing their.

Physics again somehow don't use their powers unless needed and pokemon again do not organize like we do, pack of wolfs? I agree with that one because it how most of them work or like some work like insects as well (Of course bug types are easy to kill with weapons we already have.)

Now the one thing that has be bugging me that totally riuns your plans, get this, they are 'peace loving creatures,' the mighty alakazam knows that war is dumb and for lower men, so it doesn't build or advance anything because it can do it all without ruin the land, almost, even if you are smart nothing stops a bullet like said before, and physic barriers can't be broken? Did you know Protect have reduced chance of blocking attacks each attack? 100 bullets per second = 20 attacks at least if we count the fact that their are moves used 5 times each turn that are counted, now how much PP is that?

And if their 'planet' is destroyed, how do they get here? They don't because they died, simple.

The fact is that pokemon have failed to show any way of trying to fight back as an army, humans always make the army's for them like N or team rocket ect ect... Mewtwo doesn't count because he is based off human DNA so he is also counted to have a human mind and thoughts (plus he wouldn't be real without humans like many other pokemon.)

Again their is something called bullet spread, (Not magical bullets) its where bullets go everywhere in a cone so it is likely if it doesn't hit the right part once their are hundreds of others that will likely do it.

Plus those powerful moves they use? Low PP means lots of energy gone to use them = they can't do anything now. Humans are in large numbers.

Humans plus turned pokemon Vs Wild Pokemon = Wild Pokemon Lose, the end once again.

Not to mention that hazards would give LOTS of trouble..They would throw toxic spikes.We would step on them and not only would we feel excruciating pain but we would get poisoned as well.Spikes to pierce the wheels of vehicles etc...Stealth rock to limit us in a small area since if we tried to move a rock would smash on our heads.Sand tomb to bury a whole army alive.Rock tomb kinda the same..

Kharma wrote:Not to mention that hazards would give LOTS of trouble..They would throw toxic spikes.We would step on them and not only would we feel excruciating pain but we would get poisoned as well.Spikes to pierce the wheels of vehicles etc...Stealth rock to limit us in a small area since if we tried to move a rock would smash on our heads.Sand tomb to bury a whole army alive.Rock tomb kinda the same..

Again, not organized enough, the end.

Damn, this whole thing has turned into a "Guns Are Gods", "I'm not even thinking about the other side because humans are awesome" and "My side is right no matter what" Rant and hate speech. I think you both should just calm down and try to think logically not emotionally. Have you ever even played the Mystery Dungeon series, Blood?

Well how about this: What if a group of pokemon were to band together and use Celibi or Dialga to travel back in time to a point where humans did not have guns?

1. Kharma? The "Edit" button exists for a reason. No triple posts anymore. Or double posts, for that matter.

2. It's made pretty explicitly clear that Pokemon are quite dangerous to humans. Look at the first games. You walk into the grass outside your town, and are immediate cut off and informed that you're putting yourself in danger. There is nothing here but the most absolutely pitiful and weak rats and birds ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, and you're still told it's dangerous to be on your own here without a Pokemon of your own. This isn't even considering the various elemental attacks and such. Even the weakest Pokemon, who only even have access to Tackle, are considered dangerous to humans. This is saying something, no?

3. Guns... seem to be largely irrelevant. This is a society where people can generally control anything from a bird large enough to ride on to a steel snake 40 feet long. The only people generally shown carrying weapons are villainous groups... because they can't trust that their own Pokemon will be loyal enough to carry out their dirty work, so instead they either develop means to make Pokemon more controllable (Shadow Pokemon, et cetera), or separate weapons altogether. Even when humans have weapons, such as an episode where some random Rocket Grunts have rocket launchers, such weapons are explicitly inferior to sufficiently powerful Pokemon attacks. No wonder "electric Pokemon saved [Lt. Surge] during the war."

Lol really..You game the best laugh in my whole life.How old are you?Because the way you think is really immature.
Ok let's start:

1.Pokemon are not like in the anime.They won't be friendly towards us.They won't be willing to become pets to us.They are wild pokemon.You get a pokemon as a pet only after you fight it,capture it and make it your pet.And I don't think that humans will have time to think about petting pokemon to turn them by their side.Not only this will prove ineffective but it will also leave them vulnerable to death since they could be easily attacked while they are trying to pet an eevee which is gonna rip their face apart if they keep on petting it.

2.Electric types wouldn't only try to kill us but their priority would be to break down our technology and create an irreversible black out.Now we don't have technology.What are we going to do? Furthermore,I don't think that we would try to go to the supermarket and buy foam and plastic to deal with them.Seriously how do you guys come up with these?We are in the middle of a war and we just leave our guns and go bring some foam and plastic.Great idea.I am sure that's the first thing humans would do in that situation.If it is like that,then why should we care and use guns?Just hold some grass in your arm,a water gun,a tazer and some garlic and you are ready to fight some creatures with sp.powers. GET OVER IT! Type weaknesses and resistances wouldn't exist in the real world.Glaceon is an ice type.Why? Because it is an arctic fox.It's body isn't made of ice.A glaceon would be affected by fire the same way any other pokemon or animal would.

3.First of all if we poured chemicals and waste in the ocean,where the water type pokemon would be,then there would be 2 choices.Either water/poison type pokemon would go and absorb the dirt or the pokemon would just purify the ocean with the help of Suicune. Anyway,I really think it is very related to your preview argument.We would struggle to fight against them and survive.We wouldn't have the time and the comfort to do special missions like polluting the water or ..*giggles* buying plastic and foam.We would struggle to survive.And since we wouldn't be able to pet pokemon then your very last argument isn't valid.

4.Psychic types in the spotlight.Again.Why? Because you can't understand that with their mind powers they would be able to exterminate us in a matter of days.Psychic types would control everything.And by everything I mean EVERYTHING.From our equipments to our own minds.The would stop every single attack or bullet or cannon ball or missile in mid-air and throw it back to us.They would lift every tank and vehicle and either send it flying away or even worse hurl it at us.They would lift us in the air and sent us flying away(thus killing us) or just crush our skulls.Do you want me to go on about them reading our minds?...

5.Yeah,steel type Pokemon are weak to fire and fighting(not to rock.get your facts straight before you post them).Firstly,in the real world no type resistances or weaknesses or immunities would exist.Secondly,even if there were such things,I don't think fire would do much to steelix or steel types since they are too big and they won't just die because of it.Except from fire(which could be easily put out by a water gun from a vaporeon) I don't think a human would be brave(or dumb) enough to approach a steel pokemon and try to beat it.The only thing he will succeed is to hurt his arms and eventually get killed by the pokemon.

6.Yeah sure.Rifle bullets would penetrate thick steel armors. uhuh..

7.How many times should I say that there would be no type weaknesses.And ice types would easily freeze us from a range with ice beam,blizzard and generally every ice attack.No need for them to come closer.A blizzard will hit us very powerfully even from mile away.

8.See?Pokemon can group and attack like we can.And who told you that psychic types use their powers only when needed.They will use them to kill us whenever they want to or to protect themselves from the MIGHTY bullets.

9.Stop thinking by the logic of the Pokemon games.If Protect could be used as many times as we wanted then it would be OverPowered for the games.In real life Pokemon could use Protect as many times as they wished.And Pokemon aren't peace loving creatures.They would have a purpose for doing that.Stop trying to alter my question.Just accept that they would want to kill us.They want to kill us so we defend ourselves by trying to kill them as well.

10.Okay.If that's the problem then let's just say that a portal to the Pokemon world opened and they poured in ours.

11.*whistles* There is no such thing as PP in real life *cough* ..If you want to tell me that they would feel tired then we would as well.They also have more HP than us so we would endure much less.

12.Correction : Humans alone vs Pokemon = Pokemon win.

Some useful tips for you :
Stop overly blending the Pokemon games with real life.PPs and Protect and the stat altering moves such as leaf storm which drops sp.attack won't apply in real life.They are just there to make the games valid.If there wouldn't be stat dropping powerful attacks then some pokemon would be over powered.

EDIT: Your argument about pokemon not being organized enough is not valid because:
1.Pokemon are very clever so they can organize.
2.There is really not much organization involved in pokemon just throwing spikes in front of them as they are walking.

And also,I think you are the only one here supporting that humans would win.That guy is right.Even when you walk through tall grass you are warned that it is dangerous to be there all alone because even small Pidgeys can pop your eyes out with their beaks while rattatas can cut your fingers off with their fangs.

Kharma, you're hurling insults again. Seriously, stop that.

Topic locked. This discussion is getting way out of hand, and I will not tolerate any more mudslinging from anyone here, including you Kharma. Please take time to read our rules and study the art of civil discourse, or I will be forced to have offenders sit out for about a week minimum. This is your first and only warning.